Trump and the 2024 Republican Primaries: 13 Voters Discuss

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

Economics.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

The debt.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

The situation.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

[Laughs] Yeah.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

The economy.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

The economy.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

The debt and the economy. The debt scares me.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

Education.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

The economy.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

The economy.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

Inflation.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

Trump and his indictment. Now Biden and his son’s indictment. I have no clue who I’ll vote for. It seems like everybody’s just underhanded.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I’m worried about Social Security running out. And the debt just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, it went big under Trump too. It’s not just Democrats. It’s Republicans. And everybody just eats at that trough like they’re all pigs.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

It’s going to impact my children. They’re going to have higher taxes on Social Security. When I get to 65, even though they say they’re not going to touch Medicare, they have to touch this kind of stuff. There’s just not enough money.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

I’m an educator. For California, I feel like we’re just going in the wrong direction. Our governor is a pistol. There’s not enough money going into education. Teachers aren’t getting paid enough, so there’s a huge teacher turnover. And they’re sending the curriculum in this different direction, and it’s causing a bigger hole in our kids’ learning, and it’s setting them up for failure.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

Jobs.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

Not much.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

Employee rights.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

The judicial system.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

I do like the judicial system.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

Jobs. We have jobs now.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Yeah, the judicial system.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

Local communities are making positive impacts in trying to circumvent some of the strife that they’re getting from national economics.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

Innovation.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

The entertainment industry. Taylor Swift brought in $300 million to Los Angeles.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

America’s leadership in the world.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

Advancements in technology. Innovations. And social services.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

I think it’s the one branch of government where people continue to be evaluated fairly. It’s not perfect, but people are still evaluated in a court of law by a jury of their peers.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

I think there’s a fair balance to it. Right or wrong, you have the process. And if it has to go all the way to the Supreme Court, that’s fine.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

The judicial system is there to stop the executive branch, especially, from just having executive orders and saying, “I’m going to do this.” Like on student loans, for example. I like the balance of powers between the branches of government — the three legs is really good.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

I voted for Trump, but what he was doing was wrong. And they’re taking that all the way to the courts. I can’t believe he’s going to do time for it, but he needs to be penalized somehow.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

We’ve done a very good job of marshaling the NATO allies against Russian aggression. I don’t think that would have happened with a different administration than the one that’s in there now.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

Businessmen. They’re trying to keep jobs and improve their companies. I don’t think politicians could walk a day in our shoes.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

Yeah, big corporations that refuse to lay off workers, that refused to lay off workers during Covid, that are refusing to lay off workers now with some kind of recession looming in the atmosphere.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

Politicians in Washington, D.C., collectively. They have lost sight of how we live and work as middle-class people. We can give free Narcan to whoever we want to in the parking lot of McDonald’s because they’re OD’ing, but we cannot get diabetic medication to those kids who did not choose to be diabetic. People are losing their jobs and can’t afford health care, and you’re going to legislate whether or not somebody can read a book?

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

I’m 100 percent with Sara. We’re legislating the wrong things. We’re not trying to take care of our middle class.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

Go away.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

Immoral.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

Betrayed.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

Disgusted.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Disappointed.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

That was going to be my word. Yeah, disappointed.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

Power trip and insane.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

No.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

Jan. 6 had a big thing to do with it.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

Amen.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

I saw his speech. He riled everybody up. There’s no other way to put it. There are no words to describe how angry I get when I think about Jan. 6. People got hurt, they lost their lives. And a responsible person, let alone the leader of a free country — there had to have been a better way to speak his mind without instigating so much violence.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

I work at an election polling place. I’ve been doing it for years. We’re real careful.

North Carolina doesn’t require IDs, but we check their information. We try to make sure that no one is denied the right to vote or is influenced to vote. I did not want to see Biden win, but I do not feel that Trump handled it properly. I felt like he deliberately created a division in the American people to get them to come to the capital. Who does that? I don’t care how angry I am at someone. I’m not going to threaten them with a ball or a bat or with a gun to have my way.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

When he lost the election, Georgia had a runoff election for two senators. And Republicans could have won those races. But Trump had so much negativity. At a certain point, you lost. Move on and help the people who still have a chance.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Yeah, I think so. I would have thought that he’d want other people still to win and to have the Senate be Republican.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

Shocked.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

Democrat. [Laughs]

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

Not surprised.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

Horrified.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

Disappointed in the country.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

I wouldn’t be surprised. I think there’s a core base that will support him, no matter what, and that will carry him through the primaries.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

Yeah, no offense to anybody, but I think a majority of the United States is just delusional. How can you listen to someone like that talk and be like, “Oh, yeah, let’s vote for him”?

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

I would be surprised. His tantrums, the narcissism. It’s too much. There has to be another person out there that is more responsible than this man.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

To Andreia’s point, with everything that’s happened in the last few years with him, this is the best that we could do?

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I just can’t believe all the surveys or the polls that are coming out that said Trump is the favorite. I mean, unless people are lying to me. My Republican friends say they are for anybody but Trump. I just don’t get it. Where are these people?

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

Not at all.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

I would agree. He is not a great leader in terms of morality and setting an example for America’s youth as just something that you should aspire to be.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

I think he’s a great showman. But that’s all he is.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

But we don’t need a showman.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

Exactly.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

He’s a straight shooter. You can’t not say that. He says what he’s going to do, whether you like it or not.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

He’s very bold in what he says.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

His strength is in negotiations. He’s good in business. I voted for him the first time because he’s a straight shooter. He’s not afraid to speak his mind.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

He’s not a straight shooter. He’s a pathological liar. Yeah, he’s a charlatan. What he does have is charisma. He does have the ability to rile up a crowd. He does have that charisma. But he’s not using it to a good end. He’s using it for his own selfish agenda.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, just because I liked the show that he had on, “The Apprentice.” I thought he was very patriotic, and I thought that was going to be a good thing. It didn’t turn out that way.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

It would cause even more political divide in the country.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

People will either be all Trump or no Trump.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

I told my grandkids, I wouldn’t be surprised to see another Civil War because people get so divided over politics.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

I think if my 401(k) went back up, I would be happy. That’s all. I really don’t care about his rhetoric and things like that. As long as he has results, ultimately, that’s what’s positive.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

My family and I would live in far more fear than we currently do. Fear of a national disaster, of a civil war. And also a fear that he’s going to pop his mouth off about something and piss off the wrong overseas entity and get us all blown off the map, to be honest.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

I was raised as a Republican. I was always a very proud Republican. And with the crap that’s happened in the last few years, I have looked at the other party, just for somebody that seemed more sane.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Well, I understand the populism behind him. Because people are working hard. And they can’t save, and they can’t get ahead. And that’s great if they can go toward the Republican Party. I don’t wish ill on either Trump or Biden, but I just want both of them to go away so we can have a new choice. And I’m a person who’s big on age. There can be great people who are older, but we need some younger people.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

It’s made me ashamed for people to know I’m a Republican and that I voted for Trump. I’ve always tried to feel like I voted for the man, not the party. The individual, for who I thought was, to use a phrase from earlier, the lesser of two evils. And I really thought Trump had potential, that he was going to help the United States. And he gets in office, and it turns out he’s just an insane dirty old man. And I’m creeped out.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

It’s either going to work or it’s going to blow up in their face. For better or for worse, it’ll be a different party whichever way that goes.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

When I look at young people today and hear some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths, I think, they are our future politicians? They don’t even understand the Constitution. That we have 50 United States.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

Maybe we need to go back toward working with Democrats and independents, and seeing what we can actually get done to make the country get better.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Would normal D.A.s be going after a person for this kind of stuff? I don’t know. All the people that are going after him are so politicized.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

With the First Amendment, Trump will say that he has a right to say whatever he wants. And in the long run, if it goes all the way to the Supreme Court, he’ll get off. But it’ll be on our tax dollars.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

On the documents case, for any other person, that person would be in jail right now. That one seems like a slam dunk to me. And the other ones, I believe he’s guilty as well. The Jan. 6 trial as well. The Georgia one.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

Is he guilty of a crime? Absolutely. Is it even the crimes that they’re charging him with or trying him for? I don’t know. I do think that he has at some point or another committed one or more felonies and/or misdemeanor crimes.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

He’s gotten off for so many years that he just thinks he’s going to get off of this too.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

The rich people get off of everything.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

The violation of his oath of office and the 14th Amendment — promising to protect and preserve the United States and then inciting a riot — that should disqualify him from office.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

I just want someone that has faith in God and talks about it. That’s important to me and my family. And I think that would be important to bring people back together.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

Somebody who really understands this country, who’s had some really strong experience in politics.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

Somebody trustworthy, somebody who’ll look out for the country and bring it together.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

Exactly. You can’t. That’s the problem.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

I’m looking for a person who has a moral compass and who is willing to reach across the aisle. Somebody that’s grounded.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

I want to see what people have done. Proof is in the pudding. I don’t want to go by hope anymore. I want to go by results.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

I’m looking for follow-through. Mr. Trump had a lot of great ideas. Drugs are a major problem in our country. But his proposal was to build a wall and have Mexico to pay for it. I think any sober human would understand that that’s not going to happen. So I would like to see a candidate who can provide an example of a plan that actually makes sense.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I’m a huge pro-life person and that’s one of my things I vote on. But I understand that most people don’t think that way. Nikki Haley, she’s pragmatic. She understands that we can’t force issues down people’s throats. I want people to reach across the aisle.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

The economy. We have to be able to pay our bills, and have a house that we can raise our families in. I’ve had my job for 26 years. And I think I do fairly well at it. But I’m still having three generations living in our household just to survive. How are they going to fix that?

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

I’d like to have a candidate that speaks about spending American tax dollars on Americans, versus overseas all the time.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

I want someone below 70.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

Sixties, 60s-ish.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

Thirty-five to 70.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

As long as they meet the minimum age set out in the Constitution, that’s good enough for me.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

They might prove that they’re too old to really handle the job. That’s part of vetting it yourself.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I liked the way he handled the pandemic. He’s very clear on what he stands for. He’d be a fine president.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

A lot of negative stuff has been said about him. He just seems really iffy.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

My sister lives in Florida, and he just seems like a bit of a lunatic. With the pandemic and what’s a mask. The stuff with education and this whole stuff with Disney. Any time I hear stuff like that, I automatically think of Trump, and then I think, nope.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

That exact thing. And I’ve heard so many things about him trying to take kids and split up families, just because he doesn’t agree with the way that they are doing their particular household. It’s their household. Leave them alone. They’re not hurting the kids. Why are you trying to separate families? He acts crazy like Trump.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

The positive thing is that he’s stubborn, but that’s also the negative thing. Tenacious, I guess, is a better word than stubborn.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

He has a military background. And he has a strong family. Sometimes that will keep you grounded, because his wife will nip a lot of that stuff in the bud.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

She seems to tell it like it is. I watched the last debate, and she was the one who was saying that a nationwide ban on abortion isn’t something we could get past Congress. She also seems to have a strong grasp of foreign policy, with what’s going on in Ukraine and Russia.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

She’s fake.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

Yeah, I know people that know her. She does really good with talking points. But if you go outside the questions she’s prepared for, she has no answer.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

But maybe a woman might shake things up a little bit, who knows?

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I feel excited about Haley just because she’s had experience. She’s had foreign policy experience, which is, like Mike was saying, a huge plus. And she knows her way around Washington, but she doesn’t seem like an insider.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

I like her. I think she’s part of a military family. She understands. I mean, her husband’s deployed right now. I think she did great for our state when she was governor.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

I think Mike made some good points, but the thing about her that I don’t like is, she’s wishy-washy. She’ll come out on an issue, and then 30 days later, she’s on the other side of it.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

With what he had to deal with, with who was his president, I think he did a decent job at trying to manage that and temper that.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

He knows what not to do.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

I think he’s a good Christian family man. And I think that he has a moral compass and he never let Trump’s craziness rush over him.

Amanda,


43, California, white, assistant principal

I think he’s a little too radical, if we’re going to put it that way. And for me, guilty by association. Even though he had this “aha” moment, like, “I’m now the good guy because I’m turning my back on Trump,” it’s not good enough for me. The fact that he supported him for so long — I would never, ever vote for him.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

He was kind of like Trump’s puppet, and now he’s saying, all of a sudden, that he’s opposed to him, even though he wasn’t, just so he can become president. He’s disloyal.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

Well, when he first came out, I was really encouraged by him. And then, he started talking about getting rid of the F.B.I. and already saying he’ll pardon Trump.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

First of all, he’s too young. I’m sorry. I’m like a hair older than he is. But he’s 38. He doesn’t know anything. He talks too much about the woke stuff. He’s totally paying attention to the wrong thing. And then, on top of that, the fact that he has his background as a C.E.O. of a pharmaceutical company just, to me, says money bags. Just money, money, money. It’s all he’s going to care about.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

I think he’s a phony. Mehdi Hasan ripped him apart in an interview, just couldn’t get him to answer a straight question about what he said about Trump. He would not answer it. He’s out there for himself.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

I don’t know where he stands on the issues. I know he’s mostly kept his name out of the newspapers or off the internet. So that’s a positive thing.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

I don’t know if he’s the bulldog that the Republicans need, that the country needs. I’m just a little iffy about him. I think he does great for the state. I don’t know how that would translate as a president.

Reed,


37, South Carolina, white, manufacturing

I think he has a lot of great ideas. He is very charismatic. I think he’s reasonably outgoing. But at the same time, he was extremely pro-Trump for a long time there. And for me, I don’t identify Trump as a Republican. I identify him as a psychopath.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

He has an amazing back story, a story of how he came up from poverty. But for a presidential election, that’s not going to get you to the big time.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

At first, I really thought he had a chance. But now, I don’t think he has any chance. But he is the anti-Trump, and that’s why I’ll support him.

Andreia,


45, Virginia, Latina, compliance analyst

He does have experience in government. So he piques my interest.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

A long time ago, he did some things that I disagreed with, and so therefore, he’s not my man.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

Didn’t he go to the beach? Or something like that?

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

Yeah, I think that was it.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

I’m not against Chris Christie. I just don’t know where he stands on the issues other than the issue of Trump. He spends so much time talking about Trump, that I don’t know where he stands on abortion, states’ rights, the economy, any of the other talking points that are out there.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

I think it’s Nikki Haley for me. But I don’t know if she’s electable.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

Correct. By the time my state gets there, she may already be off the ballot.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I agree with Mike. If there’s a candidate that seems to be gaining momentum that’s not Trump, I’ll go on that train. But I like Nikki Haley right now.

Sara,


53, South Carolina, white, office manager

Yeah, I’m a Nikki Haley fan. I think she checks all the boxes for me.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

I do think that he did good things and it was just his personality overall that was his downfall. Trump did do a lot of things to help the economy.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

If there’s a third party that has a chance —

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

It’d be a Ross Perot issue again.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Yeah, I know.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

So we don’t want that to happen.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

But it could hurt the Democrats, though, too.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

It depends who they have. But if it’s leaning conservative, then it’s going to take away from the Republican Party, just like Perot did.

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

I could never vote for Biden. He’s too old, and he will not make it through another year if he was elected. And it would be whoever his vice president is that would be the president.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

Same. I will not vote for Biden, no matter what. I don’t care if Trump is a criminal, if he blew up a building. I will not vote for Biden.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

Because Biden is not fit to be president. He’s too old. He’s mentally unstable. He can’t complete sentences, and God forbid something would happen to him. There’s no way that nasty woman could be president.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I’m the same way. I just can’t vote for Trump. And I can’t vote for Biden. And the idea of not voting as an American is just — I feel like I need to vote for somebody, or else I really can’t complain about who’s in the office.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

He has no grasp on reality at this point.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

He’s senile. He’s old.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

And he’s gone so far to the left. Like, he was elected president as a kind of a consensus builder, which I’m all for. But he has gone so far and pandered so far to the left, I can’t vote for him.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

I have to vote, because I’ve voted ever since I turned 18. I thought that was one of the greatest privileges that I was ever afforded as an American — to go to vote when I turned 18. But I could not vote for Biden in good conscience, because I think he’s senile. I can’t vote for Trump, because I think he’s a lunatic. So therefore, I would have to go for a third-party candidate, even though I know my vote will be wasted.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

I did vote third-party last election. Because at that point, I didn’t like where Trump was going. I’m so far to the right that I can’t consider voting for a Democratic candidate. I knew my vote was, quote unquote, “wasted,” but I’d rather do that than not vote and vote for people that I didn’t think I wanted in office, so.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

Maybe it depends on who the vice president running with him is.

Charla,


64, Texas, white, H.R. manager

Honest, stands by their word.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

Yeah, somebody who’s honest, somebody who’s going to help the economy.

Alex,


36, Massachusetts, white, H.R. manager

George Bush. I thought he did pretty well.

Chad,


32, Utah, white, real estate

My perfect, ideal candidate would be somebody who is younger and new to the scene, so at that point in time, maybe like early 40s, and somebody who grew up more in this generation or this century than last century and is somebody who’s versed with what’s going on in today’s society.

Mike,


42, Virginia, white, real estate investor

Ronald Reagan would be great. Can you find him?

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

I was actually thinking that, too. Can we bring back Reagan?

Pamela,


52, Texas, white, network analyst

I think Reagan and W. Put them together. That would be the perfect candidate.

Deborah,


60, North Carolina, white, homemaker

Make one president. Yeah, clone them.

Carrie,


55, Michigan, white, subject matter specialist

In Michigan, there’s a gentleman called Peter Meijer. He was a congressman who’s a Republican from the conservative West Side. But he lost in the primary for his second run, because the Republicans put up this MAGA guy who then lost in the general election.

John,


64, California, Latino, finance director

No, I agree with Mike. I would have said bring Reagan back.

Rodney,


53, Michigan, white, health care claims analyst

Reagan.