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    Voices: Independent readers say ‘X is the disinformation company’ – and call for Elon Musk boycott

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorIndependent readers have slammed social media companies, accusing them of allowing disinformation to run rampant as far-right riots spread across the country.When we asked for views, our community was particularly concerned about the role of Twitter/X owner Elon Musk, whose comments and actions have been labelled dangerous. Some even suggested boycotting his platform.More broadly, comments from our readers reflected a widespread frustration with social media’s role in amplifying disinformation, accusing platforms of prioritising profit over social responsibility. Many pointed out that the anonymity afforded to users enables harmful behaviour, while algorithms were seen as exacerbating issues by prioritising sensationalist content. And some readers felt governments should intervene more aggressively, enforcing stricter regulations to curb the spread of misinformation. The overarching sentiment was that while social media’s negative impact on society is clear, the solutions are complex, with no easy fix in sight.Here’s what you had to say:‘Rabid left’The rabid left often has wet dreams about silencing free speech so they can have a monopoly over the narrative. It is no different in communist China. It was the same in the USSR. “We are here to protect you” – this is the message they want to spread while they black access to your only means of open and free informationShabz‘Braverman, Badenoch and Farage have all contributed significantly’I have the sense that there are so many bad people around politics at the moment. The previous administration descended to an unprecedented level of deceit, corruption and hypocrisy. No sooner do we boot them out, than we have this uprising of racist bullies and hooligans, burning and looting and terrorising innocent people. And they have support in high places: Braverman, Badenoch and Farage have all contributed significantly to validating these crimes.Longmemory23‘The business of making money’Social media platforms aren’t in the business of social discourse or the exchange of ideas, they’re in the business of making money, however they can, and they do.I’m reminded of a quote; “If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner”. H. L. MenckenTomSnoutThe issues go deeper than social mediaThere are three fundamental problems here.The first is the willingness of people with power and influence to exploit or encourage the worst instincts of their supporters. This is what populists have always done and it’s been going on since at least Roman times.The second is the willingness of some people to believe practically anything if it’s spread by their peers or supported by their leaders, and fits in with their prejudices about the world.The third is the rising tide of civil unrest around the world, which seems to be driven by rising living costs, a sense of loss of control, inequality and reduced economic opportunities. Some of this is fundamentally driven by climate change, and that will become increasingly the case.These are big problems. Social media companies can certainly do better when it comes to removing and challenging untrue claims, but the issues are much more difficult to fix than that.RichT‘Legislate platforms as publishers’The platforms are publishers. Legislate them as such. Their negative impact on society would diminish overnight and hopefully many would go out of business. Amongst the replacements will be online platforms that prevent anonymity, further diminishing their horrible social effects. The ones that continue to allow anonymity will diminish in relevance as all their content will be suspect.What about privacy you say? You can have all the privacy you want but when you want to spam the planet with trash you have to sign your name.ChamatoNo politics on social media”Separating the truth from the lies on social media is harder than ever”Well, that says everything about why public conversations and opinions that one person wants to share with multiple unknown people should be banned on social media. That means that no political conversation should take place on social media until clear rules have been defined. All kinds of binding agreements have already been made in the political world, even financing an election. If that is possible, sharing messages and opinions on social media should certainly be possible. The private owners of social media should be prohibited from doing politics and messages to reach unknown people.We all see today that freedom of speech without responsibility is destroying society. What must happen first and foremost is to make someone bear full responsibility for the damage he causes with his speech. Justice must adapt more quickly to a society where, now not only can multiple unknown people be reached via written text, but they can also communicate via oral and visual media.demeyereMusk’s ‘civil war’Less concerning than the ‘free speech’ Musk champions on Twitter(X), are Musk’s own words. He is bandying terms like ‘civil war’ about the UK, when he clearly knows nothing of society on this side of the pond. The UK is not the USA. The numbers of numbskulls who think violence is the answer to everything is a much smaller proportion of the population here. If ever the military did become involved, it would swiftly ‘wipe the floor’ with these beer-bellied blowhards from ‘Spoons.jingscrivvens‘Disinformation is profit’Disinformation is profit. It multiplies like petrol-fuelled wildfires, and the clickbait offers substantial click-and-view revenue to the platform and boosts its share price. X in particular is revenue-starved. So they and their shareholders have little interest in stopping it until it dies down and/or people get killed. Then they do the misinformation sweep-up along with grandiose gestures of piety until the next time.That is not going to change unless they start risking fines and/or jail time for their turn in carrying contentsthat starts riots.’What about free speech then’ will rightly argue the free speech evangelists. Yes, they have a major point. This is where I believe compulsory moderation with the moderators drawn from a wide cross-section of society is an answer here.OffshoreInvestor‘Defenceless’No, they don’t do anything, but cosmetic measures. Misinformation means views = income. Real action against misinformation only costs money. So for the proprietors, it is a no-brainer. EU-wide measures with high penalties will work. The EU has enough clout to tackle companies like that. For the UK? You are practically defenceless. RebootedyetagainHans2‘Protecting the bottom line’Social media platform owners have no interest in the harm that their platforms can unleash. They can do much more, but choose to do the minimum, protecting their bottom line. Their power and influence need to be curbed. Anonomity should be removed for a start and algorithms that push certain types of content should be blocked. That is anathema to freedom of speech absolutists. I think freedom of speech is a precious commodity and needs to be both protected and used with great thought. Having the freedom to say something does mean you should or have to say something.Speculator‘Whose footsteps will Musk follow?’Musk’s complete disregard for morality, or lives for that matter, reminds me of when William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer ‘created’ a war between America and Spain over Cuba so that they could report on it. Pulitzer was so ashamed of his actions he set up the Pulitzer Prize for good and honest journalism, Hearst not so much; I wonder whose footsteps Musk will follow?TomSnoutSocial media is public, not privateI sat down once, to do the math.For Facebook to review everything (by a human) before posting would likely increase their workforce from 86,000 to about 50,000,000 (making FB to be the world’s largest company for about an hour, until it filed for bankruptcy). The idea of human reviewing is a practical absurdity.All you need to do is STOP TRUSTING TOTAL STRANGERS for no reason. Go to a news source for news, go to a doctor for medical advice and above all – take care of your children instead of letting them view whatever they like online and giving them a phone for unrestricted use. You may have to actually gain a tiny amount of expertise in the technology you use.There is NO practical way for social media to police social media and the word ‘POLICE’ should give you a clue what might be appropriate. POLICE.The only practical change I can see happening and helping is recognition that many online places are PUBLIC PLACES. Most civilians think they are in private online, when the truth is they are really in a public place. So legal recognition of that and legislation that places specific regulations in place to dictate action and require police to enforce those laws.Expecting law enforcement by private citizens is just saying that those, whose responsibility it is, aren’t up to the job.- signed a veteran information security software engineer.1Eloise‘Governments should intervene’They definitely aren’t and why should they? They are profiting from misinformation. I, however, don’t believe it should be up to these companies alone to ‘fix’ the nature of the content posted on their platforms. Governments should intervene and enforce similar laws on these companies to the laws that mainstream media must follow in relation to having to bear responsibility for what is published on their platforms.Anonymity gives people carte blanche when posting online material and the content on Twitter (much of it created by bots, I believe) is outrageous: full of hatred, racism, sexism, and misogyny. While the events over the past few days may respond to a number of contextual factors (including various governments’ anti-immigration rhetoric and increasing economic inequalities in the UK), I think it’s time restrictions are imposed on these companies that force them to correct algorithms so that these are based on facts and not on content created for sensationalist reading.Words have consequences so why should all this toxic content be allowed online? In my opinion, the very dangerous nature of social media is becoming more and more apparent every day and morally, society is stepping backwards. Now let’s fast forward to an increasingly AI-based world… scary!Maider‘Too late’Too late I’m afraid. People are well and truly hooked on it. How often do we pass people who are all holding their phones? Drivers stopped at a red light, so afraid they’ll miss something on social media that they don’t see the lights change? The tech companies won’t do anything that costs them money despite billions in profits – and while people remain anonymous, they’ll continue to spread disinformation. Makes one wonder what society has become.DIRKCUTLASS‘X is now THE disinformation company’Twitter? X is now THE disinformation company, with Musk using his own platform for spreading it, in person even.European99After Musk’s latest comments deliberately trying to start a civil war in this country, I hope people will start to boycott his website and his cars. It is the only language people like him understand.Erbium‘Glad I left’No they’re not doing enough! ‘X’ seems to be igniting racism! So glad I left Twitter a year or so ago.Gingerpunk‘Make it easier to sue’I’d hate for politicians to be making calls on what is acceptable speech. Isn’t that the Putin and Xi model?A middle approach would be to make it easier to sue media companies, journalists, and social media users, for any harm or defamation that ensues. As happened with Rudy Giuliani and Fox regarding their lies regarding election workers in Georgia.WordeeSome of the comments have been edited for this article. You can read the full discussion in the comments section of the original article.All you have to do is sign up, submit your question and register your details – then you can then take part in the discussion. You can also sign up by clicking ‘log in’ on the top right-hand corner of the screen.Make sure you adhere to our community guidelines, which can be found here. For a full guide on how to comment click here. More

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    Sadiq Khan says new law to make social media safer ‘not fit for purpose’

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorSadiq Khan has urged the Government to revisit new social media rules, saying that the disorder of the last week shows that regulations due to come into force are “not fit for purpose”.New regulation of social media platforms – the Online Safety Act – became law in the UK last year but has not yet fully come into effect.Once in place, it will require platforms to take “robust action” against illegal content and activity, including around offences such as inciting violence.I think what the government should do very quickly is check whether the Online Safety Act is fit for purpose; I think it’s not fit for purposeMayor of London Sadiq KhanBut the Mayor of London said that the rioting over the last week, which came after misinformation about the suspected Southport attacker spread on social media, showed that reform of the regulation was necessary.“The way the algorithms work, the way that misinformation can spread very quickly and disinformation … that’s a cause to be concerned, we’ve seen a direct consequence of this,” he told The Guardian.“I think what the government should do very quickly is check whether the Online Safety Act is fit for purpose; I think it’s not fit for purpose.”After the stabbings in Southport on July 29, an incorrect name and a false story around the background of the suspected perpetrator spread online.In recent days Elon Musk, the owner of X, has been heavily criticised for posts about the disorder in the wake of the Southport stabbings.The billionaire was called “deeply irresponsible” by Justice Secretary Heidi Alexander for posting that “civil war is inevitable” in the UK.He also reposted an image of a fake news headline about the UK’s response to riots.The Online Safety Act will, for the first time, make firms legally responsible for keeping users safe when they use their services.In a few months, new safety duties under the Online Safety Act will be in place, but you can act now – there is no need to wait to make your sites and apps safer for usersIt will require platforms to put in place clear and proportionate safety measures to prevent illegal and other harmful content from appearing and spreading on their sites.The biggest platforms could face billions of pounds in fines if they do not comply.Named managers could be held criminally liable in some instances, and sites may face having their access limited in the most severe cases.Ofcom, which will oversee the new laws, on Wednesday urged social media companies to do more to deal with content stirring up hatred or provoking violence on Britain’s streets.The watchdog said: “In a few months, new safety duties under the Online Safety Act will be in place, but you can act now – there is no need to wait to make your sites and apps safer for users.” More

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    Starmer vows ‘no let-up’ on rioters as police hail ‘turning point’ in violence

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorSir Keir Starmer has told far-right thugs that there will be no let-up in bringing them to justice, as he held his third emergency Cobra meeting in a week amid concerns there could be a new wave of violence this weekend.It is understood he told the meeting on Thursday evening that police need to remain on “high alert” so they are prepared for any possible further unrest in the coming days.His warning came as police chiefs said they believe there has been a “turning point” in the rioting that has scarred Britain’s streets, after a show of mass unity by anti-racist protesters appeared to see off the threat of attacks on asylum centres and rights lawyers. More rioters were jailed on Thursday, including a couple in Hartlepool who joined a mob after a day playing bingo, and a 69-year-old retired welder in Liverpool who set fire to bins and threw missiles at police.Starmer visits the Solihull Mosque in Birmingham, and meets Jehangir Malik, member of the mosque management team, and Sohail Hasani, founding trustee of the mosque and community centre More

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    New Labour MP Lauren Edwards apologises over tweets about ‘f****** Estonians’

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorA new Labour MP has apologised and said she “deeply regrets” recently unearthed offensive tweets. Lauren Edwards, the new MP for Rochester and Strood made comments about Estonians, Parliament’s cleaners and a halal restaurant, in the now-deleted posts. In one, Ms Edwards wrote: “I want these f****** Estonian r****** out of my flat now!”She said she had made a “significant error of judgement” in a statement on X, formerly Twitter.Lauren Edwards has apologised after old Tweets resurfaced (UK Parliament/PA)The posts date from more than a decade ago, between 2009-2011.Ms Edwards, who worked as a parliamentary researcher for Labour MPs including Barbara Keeley, Teresa Pearce and Lisa Nandy until 2013, also tweeted: “Are the cleaners on recess too? My desk has so many coffee rings it looks like Saturn.”Another, which appeared to respond to an account called Baroness Wrenthorpe, said: “Baroness Wrenthorpe text me from Walthamstow to say he’s seen a halal Pakistani Chinese Grill place. Hope he’s not suggesting we go there.”On Thursday, she said she had been recently made aware of a small number of tweets she postedover a decade ago “which I now deeply regret.”They were a significant error of judgement on my part, and I apologise wholeheartedly.”She added that: “Since becoming a local councillor and more recently an MP, I have seen first-hand the importance of bringing communities together and working with tolerance and respect for all in our society.”I pledge to use my platform to continue that important work and dedicate myself to serving all residents of Rochester and Strood.”Former Tory MP Kelly Tolhurst called the comments ‘divisive and unpleasant’ (House of Commons/PA) More

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    Nigel Farage doubles down on Southport attacks claims as approval ratings plummet

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorNigel Farage has doubled down on his much-criticised claims about the Southport stabbings, as new polling shows the Reform UK leader’s popularity has plummeted. Following the killings of three girls last week, Mr Farage claimed “the truth was being withheld” about the suspect and has gone on to allege the riots that followed were due to a lack of information provided to the public by authorities. It was false claims shared about the suspect’s name and faith on social media that whipped up anger that contributed to the racist riots that have blighted England in the last week, with nearly 500 people now arrested. Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has been criticised for his response to the riots More

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    Elon Musk tricked by fake news on his own platform in another misinformation incident

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorElon Musk has been tricked by fake news on his own platform after reposting an image of a fake news headline about the UK’s response to riots.It comes as the billionaire faces ongoing criticism about his engagement with, and handling of, misinformation.The owner of social media giant X reshared an image posted by Britain First co-leader Ashlea Simon; a screenshot which purported to show a headline from the Daily Telegraph website, claiming the Government was considering creating temporary detainment camps on the Falkland Islands for those arrested during the recent riots.However, the Telegraph quickly debunked the image, posting to its official account on the platform: “The Telegraph is aware of an image circulating on X which purports to be a Telegraph article about ’emergency detainment camps’.“No such article has ever been published by the Telegraph.”Mr Musk and Ms Simon have since both deleted their posts, but not before Mr Musk’s post was seen by hundreds of thousands of his followers – of which he has 193 million – and other users.The SpaceX and Tesla owner has been heavily criticised in recent days for a number of posts about the disorder in the wake of the Southport stabbings and was called “deeply irresponsible” by Justice Secretary Heidi Alexander for posting that “civil war is inevitable” in the UK.Both X and Mr Musk have come under increased scrutiny since the businessman took over the site in late 2022, with the billionaire himself engaging with misleading content and accounts known for spreading misinformation on a number of occasions.In recent days he has posted a number of images and memes stoking division around the anti-immigration protests and disorder in Britain, recently reposted a misleading video of US vice president Kamala Harris that had been manipulated by AI, and has previously engaged with accounts known to have spread misinformation on a number of topics, including Covid-19 and vaccine safety.His approach to running the platform has been heavily criticised after he substantially cut staff numbers and changed the site’s verification and content moderation systems, saying he wanted to allow “absolute free speech”.Under his leadership, the company has also restored the accounts of many figures previously banned for breaking site rules around hate speech, including in some from the UK such as Tommy Robinson – real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – and Katie Hopkins.Elon Musk branded the Prime Minister ‘two-tier Keir’ in a series of tweets on Tuesday (Kirsty Wigglesworth/PA) More

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    Labour councillor suspended after video emerges of him urging crowd to cut people’s throats

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorLabour has suspended a councillor over a speech at a counter demonstration calling for the throats of anti-immigration protesters to be cut.Dartford councillor Ricky Jones has been suspended by the party over the video, which shows him in the middle of a cheering crowd at a protest in Walthamstow, east London, organised to stop the far-right from targeting asylum centres and the offices of lawyers helping asylum seekers.In the speech on Wednesday evening, he said: “We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them.”He followed his speech with leading a chant of “free, free Palestine.”Ricky Jones is a councillor in Dartford More

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    Elon Musk lashes out at the UK again as Sunak holidays in California

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorBillionaire social media boss Elon Musk has launched another attack on the British authorities attempting to tackle far right hate riots in the UK.The owner of X (formerly Twitter) posted “woke stasi” this morning in response to the director of public prosecutions Stephen Parkinson promising to prosecute people who post or report material that incites racial hatred on social media platforms.Musk also retweeted a post by the co-leader of the far right Britain First party Ashlea Simon with the comments “detainment camps”. Simon had tweeted an image of a fake story about Starmer considering building emergency detainment camps in the Falkland Islands with the claim “we’re all being deported to the Falklands”. The image had been made to look as though the story was published by the Telegraph, but the Telegraph issued a statement saying: “No such article has ever been published by the Telegraph.“Politics UK editor Joh Self claimed that Musk’s tweet, which was since deleted, was seen by “almost 1 million people in 15 minutes”. He added: “Utterly dystopian”.Elon Musk branded the prime minister ‘two-tier Keir’ in a series of tweets on Tuesday (Kirsty Wigglesworth/PA) More