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    Voices: ‘Somebody has to pay for it’: Independent readers divided over the four-day working week

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorIndependent readers were divided when we asked for their views on a shorter working week. With campaigners preparing to launch a new pilot for a four-day workweek, hoping the Labour government will be receptive, we wanted to know if you would support making this practice more widespread.Some readers viewed the four-day week as a positive change, believing it could reduce stress and fatigue while boosting productivity and allowing more time with loved ones. However, others expressed concern that it might lead to inefficiencies, particularly in the public sector.Here’s what you had to say:‘There’s more to life than work’Working all the hours under the sun has its origins in the industrial Revolution, and once upon a time, people worked six days a week and sometimes more. Working very long hours was commonplace, especially on the shop floor.Trade unions fortunately came into being to ensure that working people had better working conditions with better pay.Work is something that evolves, and today many people travel long distances to work, and many jobs are very stressful indeed.If many workplaces find that working a four-day week, instead of a five-day week, means more productivity and less stress and fatigue then this has to be a good thing.The other side of the coin is that there is more to life than work. People want to be with their loved ones more often. Christopher1959‘A shirker’s charter’This, along with the new employment law reforms planned by Labour, will be a shirker’s charter. It also sounds very inflationary. Especially in the public sector, where the effective/efficient deployment of resources and management of productivity, are very poor (productivity has fallen off a cliff, since many public servants started working from home e.g. Land Registry, HMRC, DVLA, Passport Office, Local Authorities etc). In the UK in general, the standard of leadership, management, effectiveness and ‘productivity’, is abysmal. In my ‘portfolio’ career I’ve worked in various areas of both the public and private sectors and the contrast is stark. No problem with a four-day week being introduced, but pay, ‘perks’ and pensions, would need to be adjusted accordingly. Pablo‘Somebody has to pay for it’Since I have a zero-day work week after retiring at age 57, I sure can tell you that it’s very nice.But on the other hand, somebody has to pay for it, so one-fifth more pension savings payment per month for both employers and employees would be mandatory.Louisa‘Overlord Musk will never agree’I’d support a one-day week: only work Thursdays.But what about all the homes that need building, they’ll take 1/5th longer to build. Amazon packages take an extra day to arrive. Prescriptions one day longer etc etc.Overlord Musk will never agree anyway.BobaFett‘A boon for the economy’ Why ask people who know nothing about the subject what they think when the answer to this is known already? Not only has study after study shown that productivity is increased, but it is also a boon for the economy in general as people use their extra day to do things, you know, things that cost money. It is also pretty hilarious that people find it so hard to understand that a four-day working week for each individual doesn’t mean businesses will only be open four days a week. More fundamentally, an awful lot of things are counter-intuitive, which is why anyone who uses the term “common sense” can almost immediately be dismissed. People’s “common sense” can and does result in entirely different conclusions dependent on their base knowledge of the given topic. If everything was intuitive or common sense, there would be no need to study anything and we would all reach the same conclusions, rather than experts (and people who can understand the experts) reaching wildly different conclusions to those who know nothing about anything, yet tend to be the loudest and most confident in their, what can only be described as willful in the information age, ignorance.TrevSmith82‘Middle-class charter’A four-day week would suit many office jobs, particularly remote work, as 38 hours over four days would be easily as productive as the same over five. However the same does not apply to factory work and most labouring, so this is a middle-class charter.JMcNeillSome of the comments have been edited for this article. You can read the full discussion in the comments section of the original article.All you have to do is sign up, submit your question and register your details – then you can then take part in the discussion. 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    Small boat arrivals fell by a third in Rishi Sunak’s last year of power piling pressure on Labour

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorMigrants crossing the Channel in small boats fell by almost a third in Rishi Sunak’s last year as prime minister, figures show, piling pressure on Sir Keir Starmer to continue the downward trend.In the year to 30 June, days before the general election, there were 31,493 arrivals in the UK via small boats. It marked a 29 per cent fall on the year before and a slight decrease from the same period two years ago.Coming just days after Yvette Cooper fleshed out Labour’s alternative to the Rwanda deportation policy, which would have sent some asylum seekers to the east African nation, the figures will add to the pressure on the government to bring the numbers down further.Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper will come under pressure to cut the number of arrivals via small boats More

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    Unions to vote for public sector ‘pay restoration’ as new wave of strikes looms

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorUnion delegates are set to call on the government to pursue a raft of pay restoration settlements for public sector workers. In a bid to reverse over a decade of real-term wage reductions, Trades Union Congress (TUC) delegates representing nearly 200,000 workers will decide on a call for above-inflation rises at a conference next month. The move could set the stage for a potential clash between the new Labour government and its union supporters, following a series of pay agreements involving healthcare and rail workers.Leader of the Fire Brigades Union Matt Wrack has suggested that next month’s TUC conference is likely to see delegates pushing for significant pay increases. A motion from the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union argues that public sector wages have decreased by an average of 1.5 per cent annually since 2011, and it calls for a pay restoration to be at the centre of the TUC’s negotiations with the new government. A spokesperson told The Independent: “We have been in dispute with the government on pay for a number of years. The action we have taken has forced numerous concessions and we will take action again should we not secure further concessions at the bargaining table.Union delegates are set to vote to demand for above-inflation pay rises More

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    Keir Starmer under fresh pressure to lift two-child benefit cap in October

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorSir Keir Starmer is under fresh pressure to lift the two-child benefit cap in Labour’s first budget in October.The prime minister is facing renewed calls to scrap the austerity-era policy after a senior party figure suggested it would not be removed by chancellor Rachel Reeves in the statement this autumn.MPs and anti-poverty campaigners have warned that delaying the end of the limit will keep hundreds of thousands of children in poverty ahead of the October 30 budget.Sir Keir Starmer has previously called for the two-child limit to be scrapped More

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    Yvette Cooper facing backlash over immigration crackdown as plans to ramp up deportations revealed

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorYvette Cooper is facing backlash over plans to reopen two troubled detention centres as part of a crackdown on immigration. On Wednesday, the home secretary announced a series of measures aimed at tackling illegal migration and improving border security, including a pledge to return the number of failed asylum seekers sent back to their home countries to 2018 levels over the next six months, meaning more than 14,000 deportations by the end of the year. However, the 14,000 figure is far lower than the 45,000 returned in 2010 under the former Labour government and less than the 19,000 migrants who have arrived in Britain by crossing the Channel in small boats so far this year.The government also revealed plans to increase detention capacity with 290 beds at two immigration removal centres, Campsfield in Kidlington, Oxfordshire, and Haslar in Gosport, Hampshire. But these plans are being criticised as a backwards step as both sites were plagued with problems before they shut in 2019 and 2015 respectively, including hunger strikes and suicides. Critics say the plans are a waste of taxpayer money, lack detail and fail to recognise “the dignity and humanity of migrants”, especially in the wake of recent racist riots that targeted hotels housing asylum seekers across the country.The home secretary Yvette Cooper has been accused of failing to get a grip on the issue More

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    Transport Secretary Louise Haigh says she will support local 20mph speed limits despite opposition

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorTransport secretary Louise Haigh said she plans to support local authorities who want to introduce 20mph speed limits, despite polling showing that 70 per cent of people are opposed to the policy. She said she wants to move on from the “culture wars” that made transport policy so controversial under the previous government.Ms Haigh dubbed the last government’s approach to 20mph speed limits, cycle lanes and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods “ridiculous” after it launched criticism of so-called “anti-motorist” policies.Transport Secretary Louise Haigh has said her officials are ‘looking at various options’ regarding the fare cap (PA) More

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    Government borrowing surges to higher than expected £3.1bn as Reeves under pressure to raise taxes

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorGovernment borrowing surged by more than expected in July in a blow to Rachel Reeves as she prepares to deliver her first Budget.The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said public sector net borrowing stood at £3.1bn last month, £1.8bn more than a year ago and the highest July borrowing since 2021.The total for July was £3bn more than predicted by Britain’s official forecaster, the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), and higher than the £1.1bn most economists were pencilling in.Rachel Reeves is planning to raise taxes and cut spending in October’s budget More

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    Labour will not scrap two-child benefit cap in October, senior figure warns

    Support trulyindependent journalismFind out moreCloseOur mission is to deliver unbiased, fact-based reporting that holds power to account and exposes the truth.Whether $5 or $50, every contribution counts.Support us to deliver journalism without an agenda.Louise ThomasEditorLabour will not use its first budget to scrap the two-child benefit cap, a member of Sir Keir Starmer’s government has said.Torsten Bell, parliamentary private secretary to the influential Cabinet Office minister Pat McFadden, predicted the measure would not be repealed in the October 30 statement.The former chief executive of the Resolution Foundation and new MP for Swansea West warned against politicians making undeliverable or unfunded promises.The former Resolution Foundation chief is now Labour’s MP for Swansea West More